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		By: Brant		</title>
		<link>https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-13852</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone sell kits for older stoves with the res tank /water jacket missing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone sell kits for older stoves with the res tank /water jacket missing?</p>
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		By: Marcia bakerjian		</title>
		<link>https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-11494</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2022 23:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How did the water reservoirs work on the quick meal coal (and wood) stoves —American Stove Company 1901-1920s . I have such a stove with the two 9” diameter side ports for connecting to a water reservoir but wonder how problematic or useful it was to use in an off grid situation. . .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did the water reservoirs work on the quick meal coal (and wood) stoves —American Stove Company 1901-1920s . I have such a stove with the two 9” diameter side ports for connecting to a water reservoir but wonder how problematic or useful it was to use in an off grid situation. . .</p>
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		By: Chris Knapp		</title>
		<link>https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-11410</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Knapp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi,
We have a pioneer princess that came with a hot water coil.  As we attempt to install the coil the mechanics don&#039;t seem to quite work.  The coil hits on the bottom of the cook surface and the top of the fire brick.  The only way to install seems to be to angle the coil down toward the front of the stove and remove some brick.  (our brick is in many pieces at this point from years of use)  Also, the coil came with lock collars, are the collars supposed to be outside the firebox or inside as a hard stop?  If the collars are inside the threaded end of the coil wont reach out far enough beyond the heat shield to attach the elbow that will lead into the pipe.  But if the collars are outside the wholes are not fully sealed and the coil has some wiggle.  Would love to see a drawing of intended installation for the pioneer princess.
Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
We have a pioneer princess that came with a hot water coil.  As we attempt to install the coil the mechanics don&#8217;t seem to quite work.  The coil hits on the bottom of the cook surface and the top of the fire brick.  The only way to install seems to be to angle the coil down toward the front of the stove and remove some brick.  (our brick is in many pieces at this point from years of use)  Also, the coil came with lock collars, are the collars supposed to be outside the firebox or inside as a hard stop?  If the collars are inside the threaded end of the coil wont reach out far enough beyond the heat shield to attach the elbow that will lead into the pipe.  But if the collars are outside the wholes are not fully sealed and the coil has some wiggle.  Would love to see a drawing of intended installation for the pioneer princess.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		By: Woodstove Woody		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Woodstove Woody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 21:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-9526&quot;&gt;SUSAN&lt;/a&gt;.

I am adding this information as a means to help other Flameview Cookstove Owners who are also wondering how to remove the Double Hot Water Coil from their cook stove, it simply unbolts.
1. Remove the bolts (2) in the top firebox, that are in the bracket the tubes are welded to. 
2. Slide it out, and remove it. 
3. You must plug the holes using the same two bolts that held it in, by adding some fender washers to close the hole off. 
4. A little dab of furnace cement would help too. Add one washer inside the firebox and add a dab of furnace cement push it against the firebox wall to hold it in-place, repeat on the outside of the firebox. 
5. Tighten and your ready to fire your Flameview Cookstove.
6. Grab a fire extinguisher and keep it nearby.
7. Buy a Chimfex that you can toss into the firebox if the stove catches fire.
8. Make sure you keep it cleaned and make sure that you dig out the creosote at the base of the chimney system that goes through the warming oven.
9. The only way in there is through the top of the flue collar down. You must dig the creosote out of this area in order to properly clean this a Flameview Wood Cookstove. If this area ignites it will burn at over 2000 degrees!  Printed clearances do not allow for this.
10. Keep the area around the oven clean as well as this side is prone to build with creosote. 
There is another post on Hearth.com that talks about another Flame View Cookstove and how to clean it properly. https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/does-anyone-have-the-margin-flameview.113187/page-2]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-9526">SUSAN</a>.</p>
<p>I am adding this information as a means to help other Flameview Cookstove Owners who are also wondering how to remove the Double Hot Water Coil from their cook stove, it simply unbolts.<br />
1. Remove the bolts (2) in the top firebox, that are in the bracket the tubes are welded to.<br />
2. Slide it out, and remove it.<br />
3. You must plug the holes using the same two bolts that held it in, by adding some fender washers to close the hole off.<br />
4. A little dab of furnace cement would help too. Add one washer inside the firebox and add a dab of furnace cement push it against the firebox wall to hold it in-place, repeat on the outside of the firebox.<br />
5. Tighten and your ready to fire your Flameview Cookstove.<br />
6. Grab a fire extinguisher and keep it nearby.<br />
7. Buy a Chimfex that you can toss into the firebox if the stove catches fire.<br />
8. Make sure you keep it cleaned and make sure that you dig out the creosote at the base of the chimney system that goes through the warming oven.<br />
9. The only way in there is through the top of the flue collar down. You must dig the creosote out of this area in order to properly clean this a Flameview Wood Cookstove. If this area ignites it will burn at over 2000 degrees!  Printed clearances do not allow for this.<br />
10. Keep the area around the oven clean as well as this side is prone to build with creosote.<br />
There is another post on Hearth.com that talks about another Flame View Cookstove and how to clean it properly. <a href="https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/does-anyone-have-the-margin-flameview.113187/page-2" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/does-anyone-have-the-margin-flameview.113187/page-2</a></p>
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		By: Woody Chain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Woody Chain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2016 18:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Susan,
I am still making trips to the Yaak almost every weekend as long as the pass remains open, to work on my place and get ready for Burrr season. 
Call me and maybe I can swing by and help. I will be back up there in the West Kootenay, Friday Nov 11th, looking at the local Vet&#039;s boiler installation. 
Sorry about your Flameview, I still have the one I made the video about and have not been able to find a buyer either after 3 yrs. now. I guess the video opened some eyes. We had hoped it would be Margin Stoves eyes and we could offer a improved model, the way JA Roby changed the Cuisinier after I brought those issues to their attention. But they still wont talk to me until I remove the videos I made about the Flameview. The Margin Gem is one of the best antique re-pros on the market and we said so, we still recommend it when asked for new Antique Cookstoves. Very unfortunate, but I stand by what I demonstrated in the video.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan,<br />
I am still making trips to the Yaak almost every weekend as long as the pass remains open, to work on my place and get ready for Burrr season.<br />
Call me and maybe I can swing by and help. I will be back up there in the West Kootenay, Friday Nov 11th, looking at the local Vet&#8217;s boiler installation.<br />
Sorry about your Flameview, I still have the one I made the video about and have not been able to find a buyer either after 3 yrs. now. I guess the video opened some eyes. We had hoped it would be Margin Stoves eyes and we could offer a improved model, the way JA Roby changed the Cuisinier after I brought those issues to their attention. But they still wont talk to me until I remove the videos I made about the Flameview. The Margin Gem is one of the best antique re-pros on the market and we said so, we still recommend it when asked for new Antique Cookstoves. Very unfortunate, but I stand by what I demonstrated in the video.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
		<link>https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-9527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2016 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-9526&quot;&gt;SUSAN&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s correct Susan, you don&#039;t want to start any burns in the stove with the water coil hooked up if there is no water available. Thankfully. the Flame View does not require the double-coil to operate, so you should be able to remove it and use the stove as a standard woodstove/cookstove.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-9526">SUSAN</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s correct Susan, you don&#8217;t want to start any burns in the stove with the water coil hooked up if there is no water available. Thankfully. the Flame View does not require the double-coil to operate, so you should be able to remove it and use the stove as a standard woodstove/cookstove.</p>
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		By: SUSAN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Woody,
 Wish I saw your forum before I bought the Flameview, I would have bought a more reliable stove! I wonder if we can sell this beauty?
 It&#039;s getting cold here in the Kootenay, and we need to heat our house. However we found out that we can&#039;t  burn a hot fire without damaging our double-coil water-heater in the Flameview  and we haven&#039;t found a plumber with the know -how to connect the water coil system. ( my husband is working full time out in the field). Can we take the double-coil out and use the woodstove, like a normal woodstove? We&#039;ve heated with wood for a very long time.
 thanks for your forums,
Susan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Woody,<br />
 Wish I saw your forum before I bought the Flameview, I would have bought a more reliable stove! I wonder if we can sell this beauty?<br />
 It&#8217;s getting cold here in the Kootenay, and we need to heat our house. However we found out that we can&#8217;t  burn a hot fire without damaging our double-coil water-heater in the Flameview  and we haven&#8217;t found a plumber with the know -how to connect the water coil system. ( my husband is working full time out in the field). Can we take the double-coil out and use the woodstove, like a normal woodstove? We&#8217;ve heated with wood for a very long time.<br />
 thanks for your forums,<br />
Susan</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2016 02:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-9518&quot;&gt;SUSAN&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Susan,

One of the common complaints about the Flame View is the lack of directions included with it. We haven&#039;t supported the Flame View in quite some time, but Woody drew up his own manual years ago and if he can find it that might help you out. You can send him an email over at woody@woodstoves.net. Good luck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cookstoves.net/articles/domestic-hot-water-stoves-what-to-know/#comment-9518">SUSAN</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Susan,</p>
<p>One of the common complaints about the Flame View is the lack of directions included with it. We haven&#8217;t supported the Flame View in quite some time, but Woody drew up his own manual years ago and if he can find it that might help you out. You can send him an email over at <a href="mailto:woody@woodstoves.net">woody@woodstoves.net</a>. Good luck!</p>
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		By: SUSAN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SUSAN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2016 04:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello, we have a flameview stove with a double coil. We have reliable  gravity feed water. How do we hook up our flameview? We need a schematic.
thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, we have a flameview stove with a double coil. We have reliable  gravity feed water. How do we hook up our flameview? We need a schematic.<br />
thanks</p>
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		By: Woodstove Woody		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Woodstove Woody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please make note that the diagram that shows the passive and active DHW system show a check valve in both instances. The check valve needs to be there for a system that is using a pump to circulate the water. I believe this to a Typo as the check valve should not be installed in a passive system as it will prevent the movement of the water flow. Themosiphoning is very gentle and it does not take much to stop the flow. What would happen is you would have surges as the water heats up to the boil point, and burps steam to release the pressure. You will not get a smooth temperature clime in your Range Boiler. Instead your system will be making strange noises and probably sounds like it wants to explode sometimes.  Remove the check valve and your system will probably work smooth as silk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please make note that the diagram that shows the passive and active DHW system show a check valve in both instances. The check valve needs to be there for a system that is using a pump to circulate the water. I believe this to a Typo as the check valve should not be installed in a passive system as it will prevent the movement of the water flow. Themosiphoning is very gentle and it does not take much to stop the flow. What would happen is you would have surges as the water heats up to the boil point, and burps steam to release the pressure. You will not get a smooth temperature clime in your Range Boiler. Instead your system will be making strange noises and probably sounds like it wants to explode sometimes.  Remove the check valve and your system will probably work smooth as silk.</p>
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